The Hike To Refugio Otto Meiling – Getting Close To Cerro Tronador

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Why Hike To Refugio Otto Meiling:

[See the previous post for general info and maps which show Bariloche’s location in relation to Buenos Aires and Santiago de Chile.]

The slice of the Andes to the west of Bariloche is easily accessed, and there are some great hikes to be had.   Most involve an overnight stay at a Refugio run by the Club Andino de Bariloche or a tent site near the hut.  I had already done the spectacular Four Refugios Hike over five days from Villa Catedral to Refugio Negro.

Having a couple of days for another little hike, I decided to do the walk up to the Otto Meiling Refugio. The reward?

  • Awesome close-up views of the glacier-covered  Cerro Tronador (“The Thunderer”),
  • an evening spent in a mountain hut full of kindred spirits,
  • and a tent site I will not soon forget.

a view of Cerro Tronador from behind the Refugio Otto Meiling

The extinct volcano gets its name from the sound of chunks of its glacial covering breaking off and falling down the mountain sides.  At 3484 meters, Tronador is the highest of Nahuel Huapi’s mountains.  Two of its three peaks are visible in the photo above – Pico Internacional (3484m) on the left and Pico Argentino (3187m) on the right.  A third – Pico Chileno – is not visible from the Meiling Refugio.

The mountain hut itself is at 2050 meters and sits on a rocky ridge between the Castaño Overo and Alerce glaciers.  It sleeps 60 and provides full room and board to those keen on combining time in the mountains with a touch of luxury! It is open from early December to late April and is a 14-kilometer hike from Pampa Linda.

How To Get To the Trailhead:

The adventure begins at 8:30 a.m. with a two-hour ride in the mini-bus arranged by Club Andino de Bariloche. I bought my return ticket the day before at the Club Andino de Bariloche information kiosk next to the building you see in the image below.  It is a 73-kilometer ride to  Tampa Linda;  as you leave Bariloche, you ride southwest on Ruta 40 all the way to Villa Mascardi before taking the turnoff for the dusty gravel road RP82 to Pampa Linda.

The Club Andino shuttle bus to Pampa Linda from Bariloche

The people I’d be sharing the trails with would be waiting for the bus in front of the CAB building – and then on the bus.  I’d get to chat and share water breaks with more than a few of them before the hike was done! Standing to the left is a Danish adventurer Birte.  We were both high school teachers and had lots to talk about, including our shared experience of life in classrooms with mid-teens!

the Park entrance on the Pampa Linda road

At the Park entrance, we all got out of the mini-bus and paid our park entrance fee, which will vary depending on where you are from.  The further your home is from Bariloche, the more you can expect to pay!

The gravel and dirt road ride was very dusty, thanks to the lack of rain over the past couple of weeks.  I tucked away my camera to spare it from the dust floating around the bus interior and wondered about the particles I was inhaling.  Along the way, we stopped for a few minutes at the Hotel Tronador near the west end of Lago Mascardi.  It would make a very plush base camp for hikes in the area!

a view of the Andes and Lago Mascardi from in front of the Hotel Tronador

Not long after, we arrived at Pampa Linda (elevation 850 meters). The name of the place literally means  “beautiful flat area,”  and it has a number of facilities catering to hikers.  The first one we all headed to was the Park Office pictured below to fill out the form indicating the nature of our hike, our gear, and more. It took about five minutes.  I did not notice – but apparently, there is a drop-off box for your form upon completion of the hike.  The next day I would forget to do so!

Park office – Guardaparque –  at Tampa Linda – sign-in required

The Hosteria Pampa Linda is the poshest of the accommodation options available here, but there are few camping options available too.  Some that I noticed were –

  • Camping Los Vuriloches
  • Camping Pampa Linda
  • Camping Rio Manso back on the other side of the river

Had I known beforehand about all the options – camping and hiking – that are possible out of Pampa Linda, I would have allocated more time – maybe a week – to take the area in. The park map below shows the possible hikes –

  • the short hike from Pampa Linda to the Mirador del Valle
  • the somewhat longer hike to the Mirador Glaciar Castaño Overo
  • the hike to the Refugio Agostino Rocca (Paso de las Nubes) which continues all the way to Puerto Frias
  • The ultimate Nahuel Huapi Traverse – an occasionally badly marked trail from Pampa Linda to Colonia Suiza. The blue trail on the map below is the start.

If there is a next time, I will certainly not have any trouble finding a trail to walk! Spending another day at the Meiling Refugio would also have been nice.

As it was, my two days would be spent walking the green trail up to the Ceiling Refugio and then back down.  We got to Pampa Linda about 11; we would leave for Bariloche the next afternoon around 4:30.

trail choices from Pampa Linda

The 14-kilometer walk takes about 5.5 hours and takes you through varied terrain.  To be honest, for the first three hours, dramatic alpine views are all but non-existent. When you get above the tree line, the quiet pleasure of walking up a park road through an old-growth forest is replaced by the WOW of the glacier and the jutting peaks of Cerro Tronador.

Part I: 2.7 km. From The Trailhead To the River

Trailhead sign at Pampa Linda

A fellow hiker checks out the map at the trailhead, and then he is off.  I don’t know him yet, but we will take turns passing each other. Later at the Refugio, I will give him half of my rehydrated Indian veg curry and rice!  I was just glad that there was a bit of shade on the trail because it was close to noon, and it was hot!

the park road – the first three kilometers to the river

There are three bridges over the river – the wide one for park vehicles, the original log, and a narrow newer metal bridge with railing for the hikers.

Part II: 3.5 km. Gentle uphill on the Park road

Leaving the Rio Castaño Over behind, we made our way up the park road over the next hour and a bit.  Thanks to the incredible forest cover, we were often shaded from the full effect of the sun.  Passing the occasional stream tumbling down from further up, we would stop and fill our water bottles.  The cold clear water went down – to be absolutely safe, I did treat it with my Steripen UV wand.  As shaded as it was, it was quite warm, and I was sweating profusely.

fork in the trail – Otto Meiling or Paso de las Nubes

We made our way up the forest road as it zip-zagged its way up to gain elevation gradually. Three hundred meters up from the river we passed the turn-off to the Paso de las Nubes.  Then, about 2 1/2 kilometers later, after a walk up a long gradual ascent up the park road (904 meters to 1060), we came to the turn-off for the Mirador Glaciar Castaño Overo.

another fork in the trail – the trail left goes to the Mirador Glaciar Castaño Overo

bamboo on the side of the forest road

looking back at a stretch of the forest road

I leaned my pack against the base of the tree to give some perspective on its size.  Else-where  I did see recently cut trees on the side of the road, though none as impressive as the one in the photo.  I am not sure if it was just deadfall or if logging goes on in the park.

Part III: 4 km.  Series of Steep Switchbacks

So far, the gain in altitude had been gradual. The next four kilometers of the trail (from 1060 meters to 1450 meters) is a series of switchbacks that take you up steeply; it pushed the “effort required” needle beyond “easy”!

To give us an extra bit of adventure, my walking partner, a Danish adventurer, and I took the wrong fork in the trail!  When we came up to the flat area in the photo below, we kept on with our conversation and turned to the right.

To the left is where the trail actually goes!  Now I can even see a small yellow circular trail marker on the tree in the photo below – but we missed it completely at the time.  We must have walked along the flat trail for half an hour before it struck us that something was wrong.  It may have been that we were going downhill!  It may have been the GPS location I was getting on my “sometimes working/sometimes not” Osmand map app.

osmand site header

As we headed back, we passed another couple who also thought they were headed to the Meiling hut.  We told them it was not the right way!  Later that afternoon, we were very happy to see them at the Refugio.

I’ve wondered about the trail we were following.  It was too high up to have been the trail to the Refugio Agostino Rocca.  It may just have been an alternative trail for use by horses to get to the Refugio at a more gradual incline.

we misread the trail on the way to Refugio Otto Meiling

On the right track again, we got confirmation from one of the employees of the Refugio, who came up behind us with a backpack laden with the evening’s supper ingredients!  Still facing us was the most difficult part of the day’s hike – the zig-zag up the slopes to a resting area.  On the plus side, the views were becoming more dramatic!

one of the first dramatic views of Tronador from the trail

up the sand trail – old creek bed – to Otto Meiling Hut

Tronador from the sandy trail – an old creek bed?

And then – a fifteen-minute rest.  As we sat in the shade of the trees pictured below, a  mountain guide and his client arrived and sat down for a bit.  They had an early morning departure for the Pico Argentino – one of Cerro Tronador’s three peaks.

Later in the Refugio, we would continue our chat. It turned out that the client was a top Obama administration diplomat who had just had to hand in his resignation as the incoming Trump officials supposedly “drained the swamp.”  From chatting with Obama and Joe Biden,  our diplomat had taken a brief break from Washington while he did some peak-bagging in the Andes!

Part IV: 3.5 km. Sand & Scree Ridge Trail to the Refugio

a shady rest stop on the trail to Refugio Meiling

Yet a bit more to go – first a kilometer from our shady rest stop to another flat spot used as a horse rest stop (Descanso de Caballos).   I stepped a bit to the left of the trail and got the shot below of Tronador and the Refugio sitting on the rocky spine on the middle right of the image.

seeing a Refugio Meiling structure on top of the ridge

By now, the tree cover was gone.  Also long gone was drinking water!  I  really should have topped up my 1-liter Nalgene bottle when I had a chance at one of the streams tumbling down to Pampa Linda!  It was a very warm sunny afternoon, and I was dripping sweat. For the last hour – no shade and no water!

the last bit of the trail – scree and rock to the Refugio Meiling

I took off the pack, sat for a while, and contemplated the Glaciar Castaño Overa and the water dripping from its toe and down the cliffside.  Cool, clean water – drip, drip, drip!

taking in the Tronador view from the last stretch of the trail to Refugio Meiling

Above us, three condors played in the wind currents, swooping back and forth and putting on a great show.  Whenever I see them – in Peru on the Huayhuash trek, in Bolivia in the Cordillera Real, and now here near Cerro Tronador – I know I am in a good space! They are the Andes equivalent of the eagles that often fly over my brother and me as we canoe the rivers and lakes of the Canadian Shield in northern Ontario.  There too, we celebrate their presence.

As we went up the trail, others went down to Pampa Linda. By the time I finally got to the Refugio, my Danish hiking partner had already rounded up a bottle of water and was headed my way.  One minute – parched; ten minutes later – a liter of water and a can of Coke were gone, and I was feeling better!

I didn’t even get a shot of the Refugio as I approached, so focused was I on just getting something to drink!  Here is the Refugio from a shot the next morning!

There was a storm coming in with thunder and rain forecast.  I made the quick decision to make use of the loft in the Refugio that night instead of tenting.  I hauled my pack up to the second floor, found what I hoped would be a quiet corner, and unfurled my sleeping bag on the foam mattress.  Then I grabbed my camera and walked up above the hut for some shots of the neighbourhood, along with the slopes of Volcán Osorno, perhaps the single most scenic spot I saw in my Chile/Argentina rambles this year.  It was worth the effort of getting there, in spite of the dehydration and losing the trail!

late afternoon shot of Tronador – clouds moving in

Coming storm or not, some hardcore backpackers had their tents up. By dusk, the storm came and went, and I made a last-minute decision to join them.  In the photo above is a tent on the extreme middle right is a red tent on the edge of the image. Clearing all my gear from the Refugio loft, I put up my tent about 10 meters to the left of his.  I needed my headlamp because it was already dark as I finished the set-up!

memorial plaque for Tronador climbers who died in 2001

As I walked above the hut toward the glacier, I found this memorial to some Argentinian climbers who died on the mountain in 2001.  I have not found the details of the tragedy. Perhaps rapidly deteriorating weather and a crevasse or avalanche took their lives. It has not stopped others from making the climb.

The trip from the Refugio to the Pico Argentino and back takes about 10 to 12 hours. The two climbers in the Refugio the night I was there got up around 3 a.m. for the little adventure.  It would have been a neat thing to do and is not really difficult technically. There are some crevasses to deal with, and some ice climbing is required, as is a mountain guide.  I had researched the climb but decided that given the $500 -$600. cost, I would pass.

The Lonely Planet has some misleading information about the climb.  You read this –

Climbers intending to scale Tronador should anticipate a three to four-day technical climb requiring experience on rock, snow and ice.

The writer does not clarify that the ascent he is describing is the Pico Internacional, the highest of Tronador’s three peaks and only accessible from the Chilean side.  It may indeed be a four-day trip.  As already stated, the route from the Refugio Meiling is at most a half-day.

the back of the Refugio Otto Meiling

As well as the Refugio with its dining and kitchen area on the first floor and second-floor loft with sleeping for sixty hikers, there is another building where the staff sleep. It can be seen to the right of the Refugio in the image above.  They also use it for storage. The buildings sit on a  ridge between the Castaño Over and Alerce glaciers.  The shot shows the bottom end of the Alerce glacier –

I checked out the view in Google Earth and the image below – not exactly the same perspective – shows where I was standing on the bottom right hand of the image when I shout the above photo.  I was maybe 200 meters to the left of the Refugio.

Google Satellite view of the above shot

When the official Refugio supper hour arrived, I left the hut, having already eaten half of the contents of my rehydrated Backpackers’ Pantry bag. (It is meant to serve two!)   The young English hiker gladly accepted the rest of it.  I wandered up towards the glacier and walked into the magical hour of mountain light.  The two shots below are just a couple that I framed in my Fuji X20 viewfinder.  Later I heard that the folks at supper were taking turns running out of the hut with their cameras so they could get a shot or two of  Cerro Tronador in the amazing light.

Tronador with magic light at dusk

My tent spot was well-sheltered, and it would be windless and rain-free overnight. I had a great sleep  – no snoring or restless sleepers to listen to, no stifling heat on the second floor of the loft, and no rain to worry about.  The sky was clear and blue when I got up around 7:20, and I looked up to Tronador and saw the moon.

My sleeping bag, the tent, the little hovel you see on the right-hand side of the photo below, and other gear went back into the backpack.  I headed down for breakfast:

I had my usual oatmeal concoction and two cups of coffee and then went outside to take in the warmth of the sun.  There was no big hurry this morning – the six of us on the Club Andino bus had until four to get back to Pampa Linda, and it was all downhill.  And this time, Birte and I would not stray from the trail!

On the way down, we got another chance to capture some of the magic of Tronador – and the Glacier Castaño Olvero as chunks of ice break off at its toe and tumble down with the water to form the beginning of the Rio Castaño Olvero that we will cross near the end of our return hike to Pampa Linda.

looking down the valley to Pampa Linda

When we got to the bridge over the river, we took off our packs and spent a half hour on the river bank.  Some took off their boots and gave their feet a wash, while others (like me)  found a shady spot under a tree and leaned back.  At Pampa Linda, more time was spent sipping coffee in the restaurant while waiting for the mini-bus departure.

Our two-day adventure was over – and we all agreed it had been worth the effort!

the restaurant area of the Hosteria Pampa Linda

A Wikiloc Route of the Trail:

While in Bariloche, I discovered the wikiloc app for my iPhone 6 and bought and installed it.   I even downloaded a Pampa Linda-Refugio Otto Meiling route file.  Had I known how to use the app properly, we would not have wasted time wandering down that horse trail (if that is what it was!) away from the main hikers’ trail to the Refugio!

wikiloc site header

If you check the wikiloc website, you will find several GPS tracks of the walk from Pampa Linda to Refugio Otto Meiling.  Click on the image below to access one of the best tracks, the useful one by paco de miguel which includes a number of waypoints.

Click here to access the wikiloc file

Refill your water bottle when you can!

Had I known what it would be like, I would have spent an extra night up at the Refugio. This would have given me time to wander above the hut and get much closer to the glacier itself and perhaps – with a guide and the proper technical gear – onto the glacier itself.

Another more ambitious add-on would be the walk to Puerto Frias via the Refugio Agostino Rocca (Paso de las Nubes) trail.

Good luck on your own Refugio Otto Meiling visit.  Weather is obviously the main factor; we were lucky to have a couple of beautiful sunny days on the mountain.

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11 Responses to The Hike To Refugio Otto Meiling – Getting Close To Cerro Tronador

  1. Such a breathtaking place for a hike! This is a must for me!

    • true_north says:

      Agnieszka, the view from the mountain hut was breathtaking and the dramatic light at dusk made it more so. There are spots near you – In Poland? – with the same Wow potential! Enjoy your next hike!

  2. vk3cat says:

    Wondering what time of the year you were there as trying to gauge what clothes to take.
    Trekking Torres del Paine Feb- March next year then working our way north. Refugio Otto Meiling is on our list.
    Cheers Tony.

    • true_north says:

      vk3cat, I was there in prime summer – February. In spite of that, I did pack goretex rain gear as well as a fleece mid-layer. You’d be there in April. The hut is open from December to April so there is a good chance it won’t be open for you. Check at the Club Andino de Bariloche info office for the status of the hut. It is also where you go to buy a ticket for the bus ride to the trailhead in Pampa Linda.

      Your dates for TDP are fine – I was there in March. February would be better – but also busier. Do be prepared for bad weather – wind, rain, cold – and be happy if you don’t get to experience them.

  3. Ryan F Waterbury says:


    I am headed to Refugio Otto Meiling on December 31, 2017. I will be arriving there from Refugio Agostino Rocca (R.A.R.). Would you recommend making arrangements ahead with Refugio Otto Meiling if we plan on staying in the refugio and will NOT be carrying any tent gear? I have already heard back from R.A.R. and they said no reservation necessary so I’m assuming this is the trend throughout Argentinian refugios.

    Also, thank you for this very informative blog. It’s quite lovely.


    • true_north says:

      Ryan, they may be especially busy New Year’s Eve. You could check at the CAB office in Bariloche beforehand to see if you could let them know you’re coming. And if not, the refugio will certainly find room for you somewhere! I think there is space for 60 up on the second floor and on occasion they have even turned the dining area on the first floor into sleep space.

      My one regret – not spending a second night at Refugio Meiling. If you can, stay a second night and chill on the day after the party and enjoy the fabulous views and appreciate your good fortune in being in such a sweet spot.

      Enjoy your hike!

      • Ryan says:

        Thank you for the advice! We did not intentionally plan on staying there for NYE but that is the date that worked for our schedule. It sounds like everyone makes it work so this is good to hear.

        I remember reading of your regret in the blog. This blog has been a constant companion during my planning for this trip. Thank you again.

        My itinerary right now is a night in Bariloche, then first full day spent driving to Pampa Linda where we will hike up to Mirada del Doctor and then down again to drive back to Bariloche for the night (we are fortunate to have a 4wd rental car). The second full day will be spent driving to Pampa Linda again and then hiking to R.A.R. Third full day will be spent hiking from R.A.R. to R.O.M. Fourth day from R.O.M. to Pampa Linda and back to Bariloche.

        Would you make any recommendations to this itinerary? I am hesitant about the long first day driving to and from Pampa Linda, but we have very nice accommodations in Bariloche and I did not see a refugio near Mirada del Doctor, only that we could stay in Pampa Linda I suppose. Thank you for your input.


      • true_north says:

        Ryan – sorry for the delay. Re: your plans. I’d say you are wasting your time driving to Pampa Linda for the day (2 hours there and two back) and then going back to Bariloche only to return the next morning. There are accommodation options in Pampa Linda that would spare you the drive. There are some day hikes you could do on your first day at Pampa Linda to fill the afternoon. You could throw a tent into your jeep and camp overnight or you could stay here –

        Book asap if you think this might work!

        If you are paying for the 4wd I’d say it is a waste of money for the minimal extra convenience. Your vehicle will be spending most of its time sitting there unused while you hike. There are buses running to Pampa Linda daily from Bariloche; just get a return ticket for $50. and you’re done. In any case, that is my two cents worth! I say the above as someone who has never owned a car! I’m sure it will all work out – and you will walk into some incredible mountainscape!

  4. Derek Benoit says:

    Hello, interesting post! I’ve done this hike, and it’s gotta be one the busy spectacular ones of the National Park, although Refugio Viejo del Tronador is also quite something! Probably my favorite. There is one error I saw in this post though. That place that you say is bamboo is not bamboo. It’s caña colihue that unlike bamboo is not hollow on the inside. I’m sure there are other differences as well. They are probably from the same family of plants though, but they are definitely not the same thing. Interesting fact: The caña colihue flowers once every sixty/seventy years and then after that, the plant dies. Greetings!

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